Friday, February 13, 2009

ISMichael and others accusing me of trespassing

Now, I would like to get on a topic that a lot of members would like to understand, and hoping that this thread will get some action done.

Ok, so before I start, I would like to let everyone know, that in this post, I will not be attacking any members. I bet that rings a bell? Well it should. I remember when I first joined CPTDB, I was reading the Terms of Use. Now, lets refresh our memories. In Section 1, Rule 1, it states: "Respect All Members- Be an active listener. Respect what other have to say while giving other a chance to have their say." So, what I'd like you to do, is please currently follow that rule while you read along in this post.

Ok, so speaking of rules, some of us has had conflicts and some of us were misunderstood with a certain member. Right now, I don't blame you, and I'm not taking anyone's side. So, recently, a member got accused of Trespassing into VIVA garage property. Now, provincial law states that trespassing to Property Act, is illegal, and you can get arrested if your caught doing so.

(refer to here for Trespass to Property Act:
http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/statutes/...tes_90t21_e.htm )

Now, while doing some research, I have learned that VIVA has put up signs which clearly give the message of "NO TRESPASSING". So, what does that have to do with this certain member? Well, I'm sure many of you have seen this picture:
http://www.cptdb.ca/wiki/index.php?title=I...VIVA_8203-a.JPG

Ok, so it seems like nothing but a picture of a Vanhool. Now, I know some of you have accused this member of 'Trespassing' into VIVA Property, and to be honest, I am supporting that logical explanation, but, have any of you ever give the proper proof to prove your accusations? So first off, let me point out to my diagram:

Diagram:
http://www.majhost.com/gallery/point55/evi...idence_viva.png

Ok, so as you can clearly see, I had the location of the bus checked out by various GTA members, in order to get the most accurate measurements as to where that bus is idle, in that members image.
Next, some of you have also accused that this member also took an illegal shot of:
http://www.cptdb.ca/wiki/index.php?title=I...VIVA_8207-a.JPG but because I cannot gather evidence to prove that picture was taken by doing an illegal act, I will say that the photo is legit, and was taken without any wrong act. The reason for this, is because this person just may have taken the shot from straight on from the road through the entrance to that bus (because of the second opening into that property where you can easily get shots of buses on that side of the garage without trespassing).

Alright so, moving on to the next thing. I have noticed, that the Administrators here, have become a bit soft lately. I'm currently wondering if " This board has zero tolerance for misbehavior." means anything to them. Now, the reason I say this, is because when the administrators revoked this members Wiki Editor privileges, he has actually received the consequences. Then finally, after he started attacking other CPTDB members, and me, I believe the Administrators were on the right track when they banned this member because of that Zero Tolerance rule. But, (yes, but) what happened to that rule? You guys only give him temporary ban?

So this is why I think the Administration Team should rethink, and re-decide their decision:

In the following links, I will be using them as my evidence of this member breaking rules:

Section I, 1, filing for false report (which is a crime)

and:


QUOTE

We have the ability to remove objectionable messages and we will make every effort to do so, within a reasonable time frame. You agree, through your use of this service, that you will not use this discussion board to post any material which is knowingly false and/or defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, and/or invasive of a person's privacy. You agree not to post any copyrighted material unless the copyright is owned by you or by this discussion board. THE CPTDB HAS ZERO TOLERANCE ON MISBEHAVIOR. ANY MEMBERS CAUSING ANY PROBLEMS WILL BE BANNED IMMEDIATELY.


The parts where this member have broke that rule are circled in the images:

http://www.majhost.com/gallery/point55/evi...omagstyle_1.png
http://www.majhost.com/gallery/point55/evi...omagstyle_2.png
http://www.majhost.com/gallery/point55/evi...omagstyle_3.png
http://www.majhost.com/gallery/point55/evi...omagstyle_4.png
http://www.majhost.com/gallery/point55/evi...omagstyle_5.png
http://www.majhost.com/gallery/point55/evi...omagstyle_6.png

Ok, so I know what your thinking. "ISMichael, your attacking this poor member and you should be banned" Well, first off, I would like to say, that I have not in anyway, attacked any member in this post because none were mentioned specifically. Two, if your accusing me of attacking a member using those screen shots, well no, I am only using them as my evidence to hold my case that I believe, and what other members believe that the member should no longer be allowed here, if hes already carrying the rank of breaking the Zero Tolerance rule and why the Admins cannot agree that what was done, should be punished. Also, a member that age shouldn't start picking around on a younger member if someone accuses the older one of Trespassing, and also, this hobby is not about Trespassing on private property. We need to keep our hobby civilized, because I do not want our hobby attacked as something of "doing illegal acts, possible terrorism acts, etc.." We need to all learn that there are boundaries when doing what we do, and if you feel you need the urge to get a certain picture because you need it so bad, why not make a phone call and organize a date to get permission to be allowed on the property to snap all the pictures you want.

Now that is all I have to say, and I hope something will be done upon this matter.- This post originally made by ISMichael and the file can be downloaded here (download will automatically start - open with IE):


http://b8fntw.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pZQ9WmvjcM6P07XuPxYEUhVYvyB96nmRP1S2URmSDvFt5hbmvtl300yDzv4fCxLzgM5fOIh86eVOn6wGHZN8qkg/index.php.htm


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